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Сообщение отредактировал Khishtaki - 3.5.2015, 19:23
Причина редактирования: чуть подправил прямо в тексте, чтобы не плодить полотен с буквами. -
Пора бы им уже переименоваться в 666 -
Уважаемый(ая) Kiryl!
Радует персональный подход саппорта. -
During these 5 years I've been played
I`ve been playing. -
Давным-давно предусмотрительно залил БР на 888 -
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Такое ощущение складывается о 888 что игроки кто играет на этом говноруме могут лиштся всех денег без причины а причины придумывают формально потои если человек спохватился и у меня есть подозрение что сами менеджеры как то отслеживают и имеют доступ к аккам которыми мало пользуются и на них есть деньги в надежде на то что человек пропал и забыл про них -
Перевод.
Hello everyone.
5 years ago I created an account named 'crazymoron' at 888 room (Pacific network). I received a letter yesterday, I was told that my account had been blocked for a fraud and my whole bankroll had been forfeited.
My statistics for 5 years playing:***тут твоя картинка со статистикой под спойлером***
For 5 years I've been playing only tournes, usually high expensive majors and some regulars, I've been using that account only, never had any problems, never created any other accounts in Pacific network, thus I have no idea why my accoung got blocked.
I don't know what's going on and why I got banned. I'm in bits of this situation, 888 support doesn't explain anything, all I received from them are two letters:
First one was received 11 days ago:Dear Kiryl!
Cassava Enterprises (Gibraltar) Ltd. Company's operational department is now appealing to you, we control all the 888's operational servises. We are appeling to you on the occasion of your account.
In the context of our work to keep fair play at 888's poker tables, we had been warned about suspicious models of play at the tables, where you had been playing, those models show fraud and violation of our terms of service. Speaking of 'models of play' we mean a deal between the players to gain an edge against our other players.
As soon as the suspicion of fraud was noticed, all the accounts got suspended for full investigation of models of play. Investigation will be finished in 7-15 days from the date of suspension.
We take the security issues very seriously and thank you for your cooperation and understanding.
Truly yours,
Operational department
Cassava (Gibraltar) Ltd
security@mailer.888poker.com
and yesterday another oneCassava Enterprises (Gibraltar) Ltd. Company's operational department is now appealing to you, we control all the 888's operational servises. We are appeling to you on the occasion of your account.
We got to know that there was a foul play. In the course of investigation of your account we revealed a facts of fraud. That's why and in compliance with our rules we had to block your account permanently. Your bankroll amout was deducted. From now on all the operations involving your account will be prohibited. Any new accounts you will create will be closed, any deposits to those accounts won't be refunded.
This decision is final and won't be subject to impugnment.
Truly yours,
Operational department
Cassava (Gibraltar) Ltd
security@mailer.888poker.com
In fact, my account was closed for no reason and my bankroll (around $12000) was taken from me.
I knew exactly that there was no fraud from my account, I've playing some tourneys (expensive ones) rarely, never did anything wrong and forbidden. I saw some similar topics, I was sure that something wrong was there, but I'm facing it by myself and can't do anything. -
Создал тему (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/888-robbing-mtt-regulars-another-one-business-decision-1529600/) на 2+2 , спасибо frozenatra за перевод -
А ты правда с одной L в паспорте? -
Могу накидать письмо на английском, типа ГТ страшнэ гневе!!1 Его смогут рассылать не владеющие русским языком буржуи, если захотят, да и наши могут отправить в довесок к русскому. В любом саппорте первоочередно читаются сообщения на английском языке, а уже потом на остальных + таким образом получится, что каждый человек может отправить как минимум по 2 письма (рус + англ + ...) и это не будет считаться флудом.
P.S. Подправьте, кто может, мое сообщение, в последнем предложении пропустил слово "but now I'm facing".
P.P.S. Не видел до этого спойлеров на 2+2 и чуть не упоролся, думал, браузер лопнул. Короче говоря, это очень умно, что спойлер охватывает ВЕСЬ объем сообщения и если его не открыть, то он показывает огромные пустые рамки, как будто картинки не прогрузились.Сообщение отредактировал frozenatra - 3.5.2015, 21:38 -
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I knew exactly that there was no fraud from my account, I've playing some tourneys
I Know
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Письмо на английском в поддержку ТС.Dear 888 support,
I'm appealing to you on the occasion of Kiryl 'crazymoron' Radzivonau's account issue. You blamed him for a fraud, banned his account and took away his money (his bankroll was $12000).
First of all, I would like to point your attetion to the fact that Kiryl Radzivonau is world-known strong online and offline player, he made a final table of EPT Barcelona Main Event in 2014. He had been playing at 888 for 5 years with no problems and complains, he's playing MTT only, he never played cash or sngs or anything else other than MTTs. In MTTs there is just no way to deal with someone and gain any edge against other players. How could it be? Could you imagine? Well, we are all guessing...
Secondly, you accused him of fraud with no proof. This is not supposed to be done like that. You have to prove his guilt, otherwise you just slandered him for no reason. All you said is he had been playing by some suspicious models and somehow broke your rules. You didn't explain anything, you didn't show him any proof, you didn't answer him by e-mail and now you are just ignoring him. And the most important thing after that all is you just withdrew his money. In summary you accused a guy with no proof, slandered him and took away (STOLE) all his money. You probably think that he will let it slide.
The thing is you accused the wrong guy. He's well supported by a lot of Russian and CIS friends (topic on very popular Russian-speaking poker website if you can read in Russian of course) plus he met with support of players from all around the world after creating a topic on the world-known 2+2 website (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/888-robbing-mtt-regulars-another-one-business-decision-1529600/). He won't let it skate, it's gonna be a huge scandal, especially on offline events such as ... WSOP.
Nobody needs any problem, you can still fix it and we give you a chance to apologize to Kiryl 'crazymoron' Radzivonau and return his money.
Otherwise lots of people ready to close their accounts and spread the word to the world about 888 stealing people's money.
Oh, and by the way we know that you have done this pretty often and it's not a first time. But now our patience wore thin, it won't be just sad talking between couple locals, it's gonna be huge, it's big now, but you can still stop it, just give his money back.
The clock are ticking.
Kind regarts,
GipsyTeam Ram of Wrath.Paranoid_android @ 3.5.2015
I Know
I`ve been playing.
Поддерживаю, в первом случае просто по привычке уже написал в прошедшем времени, во втором просто описка, пропустил слово been. -
Crster @ 2.5.2015
БВД есть что сказать?
Однажды я читал какую то старую тему и увидел пост Джипси, который уже видел давно. Как всегда, написано было хорошо и по делу, не с чем вообще было спорить. У поста было несколько сот плюсов, когда я открыл их, то увидел и один минус. Мой
Стало так неудобно, что я даже Сергею написал в скайп.
Естественно, и тут и там мисклик, обычно с телефона читаю форум.
По самой теме, мой хороший друг работает директором покера в 888, я ему ещё вчера вечером написал, что лично знаю Кирилла и уверен в правоте его слов и в том, что произошла какая то ошибка, что его счёт закрыт и средства конфискованы, он обещал разобраться. Отпишусь, как будет ответ. -
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Blackwinterday, да твой минус, лучше чем 100 плюсов, которые мы наставилиСообщение отредактировал kotexe - 3.5.2015, 23:46
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Hiya, comrades!
Five years ago I signed up with 888poker (Pacific network) . Yesterday I was informed that my account had been closed [Тут лучше вставить текст их письма, потому что в подобных делах точность формулировок должна быть абсолютной] because of some fraudulent activity and all money had been seized as a proceeds of crime.
Below you can see my stats for the past 5 years:
[Тут график]
During these 5 years I've been playing nothing but MTTs (recently I played only high-stakes Sunday's MTT and a few regular ones). I played only from my account, I have never experienced any problem, I have never created any other accounts in this network hence I've got no idea why they shut me down.
I sincerely have no clue what could have been the subject of the fraud alert. I am appalled! They didn't tell me any specifics and all I recieved from them were these two letters:
11 days ago, the 1st one :
[ Перевести или оригинал был на английском?]
and yesterday the 2nd one:
[ Перевести или оригинал был на английском?]
Bottom line: they closed my account, which I used for playing MTT only (no cash, STT, etc), with no reason whatsoever and they stole around 12k$. What surprises me most about this allegations is that I know for sure I've never been involved in any fraudulent or even suspicious activity.
Frankly,I have to admit when I saw topics like this before I was certain there must be some pitfalls, but now I am totally confused, aghast and feel powerless.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.